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Unlike some celebrity members I could name, Gyllenhaal and Sarsgaard perform their assigned [Park Slope Food] Coop work shifts personally. (She works in the basement, wearing a kerchief and packing nuts, teas, spices and cheeses, although like any other new mom she now has a one-year work exemption.) (via Maggie Gyllenhaal on sexual liberation - Salon.com)
My first thought was “you gotta be kiddin’ me” but then you go on for so long, no way this is a joke. Anyway..
a lesson in sexism :)
Making a sandwhich is a skill everyone has.
Fixing a car takes actual intelligence and isn’t something just anyone can do.
So your point is women can’t fix cars because they’re stupid? I’m sorry, I cannot agree with that. The only significant difference between men and women is strength, due to elevated levels of testosterone, and even that has been decreasing due to hormonal disruptors and estrogen-mimicking compounds in our chemicals-infested lives. Fixing a car seldom requires strength to a level that most women do not have.
Asking a woman to make a sandwich for you is lazy and probably doesn’t come from the idea that you’re such a busy man so you’re asking for a favor. It’s just plain stupid.
Asking a man of which you know CAN ACTUALLY fix a car is pretty much complimenting and doesn’t fucking resort to a stereotype.
If that’s complementing, so is asking a woman to make a sandwich - she can actually do it. But if the problem is stereotypes, a woman should jump with joy at the opportunity to fix a car - what’s more stereotype-smashing than that?!
I’ve pointed this out before, why do people keep resorting to this idiotic reasoning?
Let me kindly point out to you why your “reasoning” is so dumb that reading it, I feel a kidney stone forming.
As the angry man above is pointing out, not all men are born knowing how to fix cars, this knowledge is acquired. Acquiring knowledge is something that women can do just as well as (if not better than) men. I can’t relate to fixing a car as I sold mine long ago and rely strictly on bicycle (and for a while, rentals) but for fixing computers I seldom don’t know how to start, I have to Google it first. Women can do this just as well, if not better.
There is another argument that you might want to make and that is that women may be asking men to do things for them because men have an innate need to feel superior, a need that women have learned to cultivate by playing dumb and needy even when they are not, for the good and harmony of the couple. Could that be your point sandwich-device femi-queen? :)
You’re putting words in my mouth. The girl in the picture clearly says “I thought you knew how to fix cars, you’ve done it before.” That’s why it’s an overreaction to call it sexist since it’s actually been confirmed. If she asked him to do it based on him being a guy, then I’d have a problem with this too.
You are only pointing out similarities and you cannot evidence a dichotomy here. She’s made a sandwich before as well. Having fixed a car before does not make one a licensed car mechanic, every problem is different and solving it relies mostly on the same general problem-solving skills that everyone possesses. If it is true that only him can fix the car and she can’t and that is indeed a difficult skill to acquire, then she owes him far more than a sandwich.
Besides, how many actual feminists ask any random man, without prior knowledge, to fix her car because he’s a guy? I know I wouldn’t and anyone who does is, yes, sexist. My problem with this post is that you assume the girls who have a problem with the sandwich joke would say something so thoughtless.
Again, anyone can try fixing a car. It’s not rocket science. Most women do not try it because they are not as interested in technology as men are and prefer domestic work, which includes making sandwiches, fulfilling patriarchal prejudices which, for some reason, you seem to like to defend while claiming to be a feminist.
A man can make a sandwich. Saying it’s a compliment to a woman
..and a woman can fix a car.
is like applauding a 10 year old for walking. If any woman knows how to fix a car, then she will actually be glad someone will ask her to fix yours. I never stated anything about this though, but you seem to like to conclude the wrong thing.
I wasn’t “concluding” anything, I was only pointing out a gross logical incongruency in your argument.
There is another argument that you might want to make and that is that women may be asking men to do things for them because men have an innate need to feel superior, a need that women have learned to cultivate by playing dumb and needy even when they are not, for the good and harmony of the couple. Could that be your point sandwich-device femi-queen? :)
Putting words in my mouth again. Never indicated such thing, never implied it and you can’t pull this conclusion from any of my words. You greatly underestimate me, but you can try and keep thinking feminism is wrong and create non-existing double standards out of nowhere.
If I said “argument that you might want to make” how is that “putting words” in your mouth?! It’s a suggestion of what you might want to say so that the argument gets more interesting and easier for you to defend, not an assertion on what you have said. I wasn’t “underestimating” you (did you mean “misunderstanding”?), but now that you are accusing me of having done something I haven’t, maybe I have.
So let me ask you: who’s putting words in whose mouth?!
My first thought was “you gotta be kiddin’ me” but then you go on for so long, no way this is a joke. Anyway..
a lesson in sexism :)
Making a sandwhich is a skill everyone has.
Fixing a car takes actual intelligence and isn’t something just anyone can do.
So your point is women can’t fix cars because they’re stupid? I’m sorry, I cannot agree with that. The only significant difference between men and women is strength, due to elevated levels of testosterone, and even that has been decreasing due to hormonal disruptors and estrogen-mimicking compounds in our chemicals-infested lives. Fixing a car seldom requires strength to a level that most women do not have.
Asking a woman to make a sandwich for you is lazy and probably doesn’t come from the idea that you’re such a busy man so you’re asking for a favor. It’s just plain stupid.
Asking a man of which you know CAN ACTUALLY fix a car is pretty much complimenting and doesn’t fucking resort to a stereotype.
If that’s complementing, so is asking a woman to make a sandwich - she can actually do it. But if the problem is stereotypes, a woman should jump with joy at the opportunity to fix a car - what’s more stereotype-smashing than that?!
I’ve pointed this out before, why do people keep resorting to this idiotic reasoning?
Let me kindly point out to you why your “reasoning” is so dumb that reading it, I feel a kidney stone forming.
As the angry man above is pointing out, not all men are born knowing how to fix cars, this knowledge is acquired. Acquiring knowledge is something that women can do just as well as (if not better than) men. I can’t relate to fixing a car as I sold mine long ago and rely strictly on bicycle (and for a while, rentals) but for fixing computers I seldom don’t know how to start, I have to Google it first. Women can do this just as well, if not better.
There is another argument that you might want to make and that is that women may be asking men to do things for them because men have an innate need to feel superior, a need that women have learned to cultivate by playing dumb and needy even when they are not, for the good and harmony of the couple. Could that be your point sandwich-device femi-queen? :)
